Paranoia Meme, Journal-Analysis Style (part 2)

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See this post for Part One.


sheep says:
let's do chevre?
goat says:
chevre?
goat says:
but...
goat says:
does she have a journaling style?
goat says:
she kind of writes what she wants, right?
sheep says:
doesn't everyone?
goat says:
i mean, she doesn't write for an audience
sheep says:
um
sheep says:
she writes for flist
sheep says:
man, we have very different views of the functions of journaling XD
goat says:
guess so
goat says:
XD
goat says:
well, chevre is very honest
goat says:
but she also has some very passive-aggressive icons
sheep says:
oohh?
sheep says:
XD
goat says:
like the artistic _______ one
sheep says:
wow. would never have thought of chevre as passive-aggressive
goat says:
not so much passive-aggressive
goat says:
just...if you don't get my anger, FINE
sheep says:
oohh
sheep says:
hmm
sheep says:
i think she's just mellowed?
goat says:
probably
sheep says:
did you see the ________?
goat says:
no...
sheep says:
(will have to excise this; it gives too much away)
sheep says:
hmm
sheep says:
i think she filter-locked it
goat says:
i feel like chevre feels great rage
goat says:
but she's too sensible to post about it
sheep says:
but yeah, she's, um. quite capable of being aggressive without the passive
goat says:
yeah, definitely
sheep says:
i like her reviews a lot
goat says:
i do too! they're really good
sheep says:
not just in the sense of, 'oh, interesting to see what she thinks'
sheep says:
i think she has the gift of making really awful things sound quite fascinating!
sheep says:
like ______
sheep says:
SUCH AN ACCOMPLISHMENT
goat says:
XD
sheep says:
like, say, camembert might blog about something, and her review might be witty and interesting in itself
sheep says:
but i think chevre actually makes everything she blogs about sound like something you'd want to check out for yourself
sheep says:
(in certain cases, she makes them sound better than they actually are)
goat says:
really?
sheep says:
well, i think so
goat says:
i always come away from her negative reviews with NO desire to see the original
sheep says:
oh, yes
goat says:
she can be very cutting
sheep says:
sorry, i meant the positive ones
goat says:
ah! i see
sheep says:
and yes!
sheep says:
she's very persuasive XD
goat says:
she's very thorough
goat says:
she doesn't post reviews very often
goat says:
but she goes into great detail when she does
sheep says:
oohh
sheep says:
think ______'s eating her up these days
sheep says:
but iirc she used to post reviews fairly often?
goat says:
ahh
sheep says:
maybe that's just in comparison to the rest of my flist
goat says:
i didn't know her back then
sheep says:
ah, sorry
goat says:
nah, it's cool
goat says:
hmm
goat says:
chevre's very conscientious
sheep says:
mmm?
goat says:
she won't review something positively if she feels it's immoral
goat says:
she's the opposite of camembert in that way
sheep says:
*blinks*
sheep says:
oh, example?
sheep says:
immoral?
goat says:
um...
goat says:
like the main character is ______
sheep says:
ohhh!
goat says:
and the author doesn't address this
sheep says:
______?
goat says:
yeah. XD
goat says:
fandom's pretty value-neutral
goat says:
as long as it's amusing, it's good
goat says:
chevre's not like that
sheep says:
ahh, gotcha
goat says:
but she's not self-righteous about it, either
sheep says:
*nods*
goat says:
just honestly offended
goat says:
she doesn't separate message from artistic value
sheep says:
what else. i think chevre's journal is still essentially a _________ journal
sheep says:
the fannish trends she follows are those of the __________ rather than any ______ fans that she's hooked up with more recently
goat says:
she's the only person i know who consistently links to __________
goat says:
passive-aggressive was the wrong phrase
goat says:
i meant, SNARKY
sheep says:
XD
sheep says:
okay
sheep says:
yes
sheep says:
that i can definitely see
goat says:
taking pot-shots at stupid people
goat says:
but too polite to bother their heads with it
goat says:
unless it's something important
sheep says:
*nods*
sheep says:
used to be a bit intimidated, actually -- she can be very very bitchy when she puts her mind to it
sheep says:
but she's so forgiving when it comes to friends
sheep says:
was a bit surprised
goat says:
yeahhh
sheep says:
she gives them a lot of chances before writing them off
sheep says:
but, um, off-track
sheep says:
okay, journal
goat says:
well, it's friends-focused
sheep says:
mmm, definitely
goat says:
i mean, all those locked downloads
goat says:
solely for the benefit of pre-existing friends
sheep says:
she doesn't really do anything fannish
sheep says:
these days, i mean
sheep says:
post to comms, go outside own flist
sheep says:
is happy in the sandbox she's built up
goat says:
yes
goat says:
i think there was someone who posted something once
sheep says:
iirc she set a max limit to the number of people she would friend
sheep says:
mm-hm?
goat says:
about everyone having a certain readership they were aiming for
goat says:
i mean, a certain size of readership
goat says:
you participate actively until you reach that size
goat says:
and then you just sort of chill
sheep says:
oohh!
sheep says:
that makes sense
goat says:
but everyone's size is different
sheep says:
*nods*
goat says:
bnfs are people with almost no limit
goat says:
they're always reaching out
sheep says:
XD
sheep says:
so much energy
goat says:
yeah. XD
goat says:
chevre's limit is low, i guess
goat says:
well, if she's going to give her friends the benefit of the doubt
goat says:
it helps if they're really friends
goat says:
people she is really connected with
goat says:
not just semi-strangers
sheep says:
mmm, true
sheep says:
so, to sum up, chevre's is really a very personal journal, despite the fact that she does talk a great deal about fannish matters, and relatively little about personal life?
sheep says:
anything else?
goat says:
uh, i can't think of anything

*

sheep says:
so, next!
sheep says:
your turn to decide XD
goat says:
ah! it is
goat says:
so many good choices
goat says:
provolone? feta? cheddar? i can't decide!
sheep says:
oh, i can't do cheddar
sheep says:
only friended her recently
goat says:
...maybe we should just go for it and say pepper jack
sheep says:
and she hasn't exactly been brimming over with posts in that period of time
sheep says:
oh, sure
sheep says:
pepper jack!
goat says:
pepper jack!
sheep says:
though, man
goat says:
fully ____ of ____ is also _______.
sheep says:
it never registers whether she's posting to her personal journal or her fannish journal
goat says:
not as much anymore
goat says:
with so much official business being conducted on her personal journal
sheep says:
yeahhh
sheep says:
there's no clear split
goat says:
the difference is, one normally locked, the other is normally not
goat says:
but the same people watch both
sheep says:
then again, her posts to her personal journal are usually quite polished as well
sheep says:
ahahaha. YES
sheep says:
don't understand the need for separate journals
sheep says:
could ask her at some point, i suppose
goat says:
i kind of understand
goat says:
she uses them for different things
goat says:
it's not her fault there's so much crossover
sheep says:
pepper jack is one of those people whose personal posts i enjoyed reading even before i knew much about her, before there was any personal investment
sheep says:
i suppose, yeah
goat says:
didn't she have to lock to escape the prying eyes of ______?
sheep says:
ohh! i'm not sure
goat says:
so her fannish journal is her public presence
sheep says:
ahh
sheep says:
gotcha
goat says:
so it's all administrative
sheep says:
well, she posts fandom stuff there, too, doesn't she?
sheep says:
recs and the like
goat says:
yeah, almost all from her flist
goat says:
she's consistent about what she likes
sheep says:
i suppose _______ do not mind the boy-on-boy
goat says:
it's funny, you almost always know in advance whether pepper jack will like something
sheep says:
oohh
sheep says:
what does she like?
goat says:
literary pastiches
goat says:
and...
sheep says:
her pairings seem to differ quite a bit from mine, so i rarely click into her recs
goat says:
there's a kind of sensibility
goat says:
hard to explain
goat says:
but if you have it, the execution doesn't matter so much
goat says:
well, it'd be hard if she had to judge everyone on her standard
goat says:
not many would measure up
goat says:
she's especially good at admin posts
goat says:
...which is a weird thing to say
sheep says:
XD
sheep says:
elaborate?
goat says:
there's this kind of, i don't know, mix of formality and informality
goat says:
comfortably informal, but authoritarian at the same time
goat says:
and cleverly written, so you're too entertained to take offense
goat says:
well, that's probably wrong
sheep says:
oh, why would you take offense?
goat says:
because it's clique-y?
sheep says:
um
sheep says:
hmm
goat says:
whereas most mods strive very hard to be impartial
sheep says:
i've never gotten that feeling from her
sheep says:
ohh
goat says:
she doesn't make any pretense
sheep says:
then again, don't belong to her comms XD so
goat says:
XD
goat says:
this would be easier if i wasn't so tired
sheep says:
oh man, sorry
goat says:
no, it's okay
sheep says:
checking ____
goat says:
okay, specifically, she has a trick where she illustrates her rules with very whimsical examples
goat says:
hold on
goat says:
okay, here's one from ______:
goat says:
_______________________________________________________________
goat says:
not the best example
goat says:
but i know she does it
goat says:
because i copied it
goat says:
XD;
sheep says:
XD
sheep says:
okay
sheep says:
will take it on faith
goat says:
well, if you're going to pontificate
goat says:
throw around large vocabulary words
goat says:
explain yourself in abstract terms
goat says:
and you start to feel you're losing people...
goat says:
it helps to have attention-grabbing examples
sheep says:
*nods*
goat says:
actually, that's a general writing strategy
goat says:
long lead-up
goat says:
short punch line!
goat says:
she's good at keeping your attention
goat says:
and, uh, rewarding you for reading all her blab
goat says:
it's all in the timing, maybe
sheep says:
ooh *nods*
goat says:
another strategy i sto- I mean incorporated
goat says:
it's effective
sheep says:
XD
sheep says:
<3
sheep says:
am sure it is!
goat says:
<3
goat says:
well, best of both worlds, isn't it?
sheep says:
it is
goat says:
you get to be exhausting and entertaining at the same time
goat says:
i think that's pretty cool
goat says:
and the punchlines are even funnier when you've been lulled into a false sense of security and aren't expecting them
sheep says:
*nods*
goat says:
ah, what else
goat says:
all of her posts are exercises in good writing
goat says:
even the "functional" admin posts
sheep says:
mmmm
sheep says:
she seems somewhat idealistic
goat says:
XD
goat says:
what gave it away?
sheep says:
XD
goat says:
i think she's pretty romantic
goat says:
i mean, she writes about her own life like it's a novel
sheep says:
*nods*
sheep says:
well, some parts of it are quite melodramatic!
goat says:
they are!
goat says:
but it's as much that she can recognize melodrama when she sees it
goat says:
to most people, their life is just their life
goat says:
especially some of the _______ posts
goat says:
they're almost like ________
goat says:
_______ is a comedy of errors XD
sheep says:
oh, yes
sheep says:
i really, really like some of her personal posts -- she seems to see the world in a way that most, um, real people don't
goat says:
i always wondered if part of that was re-writing the situation after the fact
sheep says:
most real people don't have the leisure to look upon their life in that fashion (would be a very depressing view!)
goat says:
but you know, i don't think it is XD;
goat says:
well, partially at least
sheep says:
oh, well, can't tell without knowing her, of course
sheep says:
but i don't think it is, either
goat says:
"so much of what i see reminds me of somthing i read in a book, when shouldn't it be the other way around?"
goat says:
from "you've got mail"
sheep says:
XD
sheep says:
can relate
goat says:
i always liked that quote
goat says:
well, it's kind of like that
goat says:
but even MORE
goat says:
i think
sheep says:
mm-hmm?
goat says:
well, sometimes something happens, and i think, "oh, that's so funny, this is exactly like what happened in that book"
goat says:
but with pepper jack it's almost like, she IS that book
sheep says:
XD
goat says:
that made no sense!
sheep says:
she could market her autobiography as fiction?
goat says:
XD
goat says:
I'M SURE ______ WOULD AGREE
sheep says:
i'm curious about ______!
goat says:
i know, so interesting, right?
goat says:
i did once make the mistake of reading some academic book on _______
goat says:
BIG MISTAKE
sheep says:
oh, why?
goat says:
you can't have that kind of stuff in your head when you're talking to the actual object
goat says:
because that's exactly what it turns into: you examine object
sheep says:
oohhhh
goat says:
which is so ridiculous when it comes to pepper jack, she's so much smarter than me
goat says:
it's almost better to be ignorant. (actually, it is better.)
goat says:
you see what i mean?
sheep says:
um, don't really
sheep says:
i don't think treating people solely as objects to be examined is ever a good idea, of course
sheep says:
whether or not they're smarter or umm not quite as
sheep says:
but don't see how ignorance would help?
goat says:
it doesn't help
goat says:
but on a personal level, it might be less harmful
goat says:
though the real solution would be to learn something, but from less biased sources
sheep says:
yeah
goat says:
the only problem is:
goat says:
WHAT less biased sources?!
goat says:
well, i'm not an expert, by any means
goat says:
just that that attitude seemed really pervasive
sheep says:
surely _______ have written books on ______? *g* and, i dunno, think it's always possible to glean knowledge even from biased sources
sheep says:
especially if you understand beforehand that they /are/ biased
sheep says:
actually, can glean knowledge on both subject and author
sheep says:
so double the harvest!
goat says:
i know all this. *g* haven't given up, it's just that i recognize that sometimes, you need to take a break
goat says:
a LONG break
goat says:
to regain perspective
sheep says:
ahh
goat says:
but we were talking about pepper jack
goat says:
hm
sheep says:
XD yes
sheep says:
pepper jack!
goat says:
i don't understand her meta arguments
sheep says:
mmm?
goat says:
that should have been, "i don't always understand"
goat says:
sometimes i do
sheep says:
meta arguments?
goat says:
hold on, i'll see if i can find something
goat says:
anyway, by meta i mean:
goat says:
any sentence that's more than half philosophy/literary criticism terms
goat says:
esp. when applied to something that, uhhh, might not bear their weight?
sheep says:
mm-hmm?
goat says:
sometimes it's like, i recognize what these words mean individually
goat says:
but together...
sheep says:
but not how the author means to employ them?
goat says:
well, i'm not well-versed in academic-speak
goat says:
it's probably just the training
sheep says:
ohhh. not missing much, really
sheep says:
did i link you to that _____?
goat says:
she used to have this thing where she'd go into the vocab for a while before metaphorically throwing her hands up in the air
goat says:
...no?
sheep says:
______
sheep says:
actually i think half of what makes lit crit so dense from the outside is that a lot of it was written in french
sheep says:
and the translations suck
goat says:
ahaha
goat says:
that explains so much!
sheep says:
IT DOES
goat says:
anyway, she's more likely now to clarify what she means in simpler language
goat says:
except when snarking. then...no. XD
sheep says:
XD
goat says:
IT'S GUERILLA CRITICISM
goat says:
mozzarella gets it!
goat says:
i kind of deduce from tone
sheep says:
mmm?
goat says:
if it's /particularly/ impenetrable, i know there's a smack-down going on
goat says:
though i don't always know on what terms
sheep says:
;_; i don't remember these
sheep says:
please point them out when they crop up again
goat says:
will do!
goat says:
check posts on _____ and _______
goat says:
those are the most prone
sheep says:
oohh!
goat says:
anyway, the rest of the time i just assume /she/ knows what she's talking about, and has forgotten to translate

WELL _____ I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY.